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   * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/ekrano-gx|Ekrano GX]] - Our latest GX product with integrated 7 inch touchscreen.   * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/ekrano-gx|Ekrano GX]] - Our latest GX product with integrated 7 inch touchscreen.
   * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo GX]] - Most commonly used GX product.   * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo GX]] - Most commonly used GX product.
-  * Cerbo GX MK2 - Most commonly used GX product - Hardware revision 2 with two VE.Can ports, USB host ports and digital input pulse counting.+  * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo GX MK2]] Almost identical to the Cerbo GX, this new model has improvements in its VE.Can ports, USB ports and pulse counting. See table below for details, as well as foot note 26.
   * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo-S GX]] - Lower cost version, same as normal Cerbo GX but without BMS-Can port, Tank- and Temperature monitoring inputs.   * [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo-S GX]] - Lower cost version, same as normal Cerbo GX but without BMS-Can port, Tank- and Temperature monitoring inputs.
   * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|Color Control GX]] - Our first released GX product, the CCGX has a display and buttons.   * [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|Color Control GX]] - Our first released GX product, the CCGX has a display and buttons.
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 | Remote Console            yes  |||||| | Remote Console            yes  ||||||
 | Buzzer                    yes  |||||  no  | | Buzzer                    yes  |||||  no  |
-^ __Product detail page &\\ manual download__        [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/ekrano-gx|Ekrano GX]]   [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo GX]]  ^  tbd  ^  [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|CCGX]]    [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/venus-gx|Venus GX]]   [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/canvu-gx|CANvu GX]]   [[https://www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers|MP-II & ES-II GX]]  ^+| Product detail page &\\ manual download      |  [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/ekrano-gx|Ekrano GX]]   [[https://nocache.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/cerbo-gx|Cerbo GX]]  ||  [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/color-control|CCGX]]    [[https://www.victronenergy.com/panel-systems-remote-monitoring/venus-gx|Venus GX]]   [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/canvu-gx|CANvu GX]]   [[https://www.victronenergy.com/inverters-chargers|MP-II & ES-II GX]]  |
 ^ __Victron comm. ports__  ^  Ekrano GX  ^  Cerbo GX  ^  Cerbo GX MK2  ^  CCGX    ^  Venus GX    CANvu GX<sup>(12)</sup>  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ ^ __Victron comm. ports__  ^  Ekrano GX  ^  Cerbo GX  ^  Cerbo GX MK2  ^  CCGX    ^  Venus GX    CANvu GX<sup>(12)</sup>  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^
 | VE.Direct ports\\ (always isolated)    3 <sup>(1)</sup>  |||  2 <sup>(1)</sup>   ||  3 <sup>(1)</sup>  |  1  | | VE.Direct ports\\ (always isolated)    3 <sup>(1)</sup>  |||  2 <sup>(1)</sup>   ||  3 <sup>(1)</sup>  |  1  |
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 | Bluetooth Smart        |  yes <sup>(17)</sup>  |||  no  |||  depends <sup>(23)</sup>  | | Bluetooth Smart        |  yes <sup>(17)</sup>  |||  no  |||  depends <sup>(23)</sup>  |
 | Micro SDcard slot      |  SDHC cards up to max. of 32GB <sup>(5)</sup>              |||||  no  |  no  | | Micro SDcard slot      |  SDHC cards up to max. of 32GB <sup>(5)</sup>              |||||  no  |  no  |
-| Second CAN-bus port \\ (BMS-Can) <sup>(18)</sup>    yes - see VE.Can  |  no                       yes - see VE.Can  |  no    yes - non-isolated  |  no  |  no  | +| Second CAN bus port \\  <sup>(18)</sup>    yes - see VE.Can  |  BMS-Can only <sup>(15)</sup>                       yes - see VE.Can  |  no    yes - non-isolated  |  no  |  no  |
-| BMS-Can port <sup>(15)</sup> |  no  |  yes  |  no  |  no  |||  depends <sup>(14, 23)</sup>  |+
 | Built-in RS485          no  |||||| | Built-in RS485          no  ||||||
 ^ __IO__                    Ekrano GX  ^  Cerbo GX  ^  Cerbo GX MK2  ^  CCGX        ^  Venus GX    CANvu GX<sup>(12)</sup>  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^ ^ __IO__                    Ekrano GX  ^  Cerbo GX  ^  Cerbo GX MK2  ^  CCGX        ^  Venus GX    CANvu GX<sup>(12)</sup>  ^  MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX  ^
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 | Power draw |  2,6 to 7.4 W <sup>(25)</sup>  |  2,5 to 5 W <sup>(19)</sup>  ||  tbd  |||| | Power draw |  2,6 to 7.4 W <sup>(25)</sup>  |  2,5 to 5 W <sup>(19)</sup>  ||  tbd  ||||
 | Mounting                      Flush panel mounting or\\  blind hole mounting  |  Wall or DIN rail (35mm)<sup>(20)</sup> ||  Panel Integration  |  Wall mounting        Panel  |  Built-in  | | Mounting                      Flush panel mounting or\\  blind hole mounting  |  Wall or DIN rail (35mm)<sup>(20)</sup> ||  Panel Integration  |  Wall mounting        Panel  |  Built-in  |
-| Outer dimensions\\ ( h x w x d )    124 x 187 x 29.8 mm  |  478 x 154 x 48 mm  ||  130 x 120 x 28 mm  |  45 x 143 x 96 mm  |  tbd  |+| Outer dimensions\\ ( h x w x d )    124 x 187 x 29.8 mm  |  78 x 154 x 48 mm  ||  130 x 120 x 28 mm  |  45 x 143 x 96 mm  |  tbd  |
 | Operating temperature            |  -20 to +50°C  |||||  -20 to +70°C | | Operating temperature            |  -20 to +50°C  |||||  -20 to +70°C |
 | Battery backup clock          |  yes  |||||  no  |  yes  | | Battery backup clock          |  yes  |||||  no  |  yes  |
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   - The 5V output on the Venus GX can be used to power, for example, a USB hub. Note that its output is not current limited or otherwise protected, and it shares the internal power supply in the Venus GX: overdrawing from it will result in shutdown(s) of the Venus GX. It is recommended to install a fuse for prevention.   - The 5V output on the Venus GX can be used to power, for example, a USB hub. Note that its output is not current limited or otherwise protected, and it shares the internal power supply in the Venus GX: overdrawing from it will result in shutdown(s) of the Venus GX. It is recommended to install a fuse for prevention.
   - The CAN-Bus port of the Maxi GX, MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX is a BMS-Can port. It can only be used to connect to managed batteries such as Freedomwon, BYD, Pylontech, BlueNova, MG Energy Systems and others, at 500kbps. Note that some early production batches had a labelling mistake: the port was labelled VE.Can. Which -unfortunately- is wrong. The hardware does not meet the requirements for a VE.Can port; and therefor is BMS-Can only.   - The CAN-Bus port of the Maxi GX, MultiPlus-II GX and EasySolar-II GX is a BMS-Can port. It can only be used to connect to managed batteries such as Freedomwon, BYD, Pylontech, BlueNova, MG Energy Systems and others, at 500kbps. Note that some early production batches had a labelling mistake: the port was labelled VE.Can. Which -unfortunately- is wrong. The hardware does not meet the requirements for a VE.Can port; and therefor is BMS-Can only.
-  - A BMS-Can port is a port dedicated to be used for connecting managed batteries, such as Freedomwon, BYD, Pylontech, BlueNova, MG Energy Systems and others, only. It is not possible to connect Victron VE.Can products to that port. To connect such managed battery, use our [[https://www.victronenergy.com/cables/ve-can-to-can-bus-bms|VE.Can to CAN-bus BMS cable]], and see [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:start|Battery Compatibility documentation]]. Connect the side labelled 'VE.Can' into the BMS-Can/VE.Can port on the GX Device. And connect the other side to the battery. The baudrate of a BMS-Can port is fixed to 500kbps.+  - A BMS-Can port is a port dedicated to only be used for connecting managed batteries, such as Freedomwon, BYD, Pylontech, BlueNova, MG Energy Systems and others. It is not possible to connect Victron VE.Can products to that port. To connect such managed battery, use our [[https://www.victronenergy.com/cables/ve-can-to-can-bus-bms|VE.Can to CAN-bus BMS cable]], and see [[https://www.victronenergy.com/live/battery_compatibility:start|Battery Compatibility documentation]]. Connect the side labelled 'VE.Can' into the BMS-Can/VE.Can port on the GX Device. And connect the other side to the battery. The baudrate of a BMS-Can port is fixed to 500kbps.
   - The GX Touch connects to the Cerbo GX using a single cable; fixed permanently to the GX Touch, which on the other end splits into a USB and a connector for the video signal. Both need to be inserted into the Cerbo GX __before__ powering up, taking one of the three USB ports. The USB part of the cable is used to power the GX Touch. The cable is 2 meters in length; and can not be extended in length.   - The GX Touch connects to the Cerbo GX using a single cable; fixed permanently to the GX Touch, which on the other end splits into a USB and a connector for the video signal. Both need to be inserted into the Cerbo GX __before__ powering up, taking one of the three USB ports. The USB part of the cable is used to power the GX Touch. The cable is 2 meters in length; and can not be extended in length.
   - The Bluetooth feature of the Cerbo GX allows to configure its WiFi and Ethernet settings from within VictronConnect. Even though it can be used for wireless temperature monitoring, we recommend to use a USB Bluetooth adapter instead: the Bluetooth function in the Cerbo GX stops working when the internal temperature is too high. This applies for Cerbo GX units built up to and including serial number HQ2207. Units manufactured later (HQ2208 and later) do not require an additional USB Bluetooth adapter. Also note that this limitation does not apply to the Cerbo-S GX.   - The Bluetooth feature of the Cerbo GX allows to configure its WiFi and Ethernet settings from within VictronConnect. Even though it can be used for wireless temperature monitoring, we recommend to use a USB Bluetooth adapter instead: the Bluetooth function in the Cerbo GX stops working when the internal temperature is too high. This applies for Cerbo GX units built up to and including serial number HQ2207. Units manufactured later (HQ2208 and later) do not require an additional USB Bluetooth adapter. Also note that this limitation does not apply to the Cerbo-S GX.
-  - The secondary CAN port, available on some GX devices as per table above, can be configured to be used as a BMS-Can port, as well as other profiles. For details, see manual.+  - The secondary CAN port, available on some GX devices as per table above, can be configured to be used as a BMS-Can port, as well as other profiles. For details, see [[https://www.victronenergy.com/media/pg/Cerbo_GX/en/connecting-victron-products.html#UUID-86f0c9ce-19b8-9f83-6745-de4b950fc268|manual]].
   - Cerbo GX power draw without GX Touch mounted: around 2.8W. With GX Touch connected, and backlight off: 3.8W. Backlight at max intensity: 4.8W   - Cerbo GX power draw without GX Touch mounted: around 2.8W. With GX Touch connected, and backlight off: 3.8W. Backlight at max intensity: 4.8W
   - DIN rail mounting requires additional accessory - [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/din35-adapter-small|DIN35 Adapter]].     - DIN rail mounting requires additional accessory - [[https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/din35-adapter-small|DIN35 Adapter]].  
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   - Non-Bluetooth GX devices require a USB Bluetooth dongle to enable the Bluetooth sensors   - Non-Bluetooth GX devices require a USB Bluetooth dongle to enable the Bluetooth sensors
   - Ekrano GX power draw in detail: Display on 6.2W @ 12V | 6.6W @ 24V | 7.4W @ 48V Display off 2.6W 12V | 3.0W @ 24V | 3.7W @ 48V   - Ekrano GX power draw in detail: Display on 6.2W @ 12V | 6.6W @ 24V | 7.4W @ 48V Display off 2.6W 12V | 3.0W @ 24V | 3.7W @ 48V
 +  - In 2023/2024, an updated version of the Cerbo GX was released, the Cerbo GX MK2. It has the same enclosure and almost the same electronics design; except for **(A)** two fully functional CAN bus ports, called VE.Can 1 and VE.Can 2. Instead of one VE.Can and one dedicated BMS-Can port. And on the MK2 model, VE.Can 1 is isolated. On previous models, there was no isolated canbus port. All VE.Can ports can be configured to multiple profiles, including BMS-Can. **(B)** the RJ-45 sockets have been rotated 180 degrees, so its easier to take the cables out. **(C)** All three USB ports are fully functional. Instead of two functional and one for power, to a GX Touch, only. **(D)** Digital inputs can do pulse counting. Further details [[https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/245954/cerbo-gx-mk2-what-are-the-differences.html|here]]. \\ \\ Identification: BPP900450100 is the first generation Cerbo GX. And both BPP900450110 and BPP900451100 are the Cerbo GX MK2. The latter two are completely identical, the only difference is country of origin, India versus Malaysia. \\ \\ The Cerbo GX MK2 revision is most valuable for some very specific applications. Such as the RV market in the US where a Lynx Smart BMS is installed, requires a VE.Can connection, as well as an RV-C port is required. And VE.Can and RV-C can not run on the same CAN network. Also for marine installations it offers an advantage when integrated into the NMEA2000 network, due to the VE.Can 1 port being galvanically isolated.
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